Titan Legions Vs Imperator Class Titan..

We manage another game of Imperious Dominatus warfare in the age of Horus. It was 3000 point per side and it was between Titan Legions and Imperator Class Titan..

This game was to test the points of the Imperator Class Titan, we know that it wont win, if it can’t control the objectives..That’s not what this game is about, it was about to see if the points cost is right..My gut feeling is that it maybe between 500 to 1000 points to low..I gather, that it will depend on the force it faces....  

We are also testing Two Mori Quake Cannon(Sorry Two Mori Quack Cannons), after having a discussing with Peter and Since it can be class as artillery.. Yep got Recon = indirect fire..

So let the fun begin…………………

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Armies used

Titan Legions

Warhound Pack: 2 Warhound Titan Engines (600 points)

Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points

Weapons:Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Dual turbo-laser destructor

Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points

Weapons: Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Titan Vulcan Mega bolter

Warhound Pack: 2 Warhound Titan Engines(600 points)

Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points

Weapons:Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Dual turbo-laser destructor

Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points

Weapons: Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Titan Vulcan Mega bolter

Battle Maniple:Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)

Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)

Weapons: 2 x Sunfury Plasma Annihilator 2 x Two Twin linked Vulcan Megabolters

Upgrades: 2 x 2 power: Add 1 shield, plus 1 power: +1 to damage table rolls for 1 weapon

Battle Maniple:Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)

Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)

Weapons: Mori Quake Cannon,Belicosa Volcano Cannon and Two Twin linked Vulcan Megabolters

Titan Legions

Imperator Class Titan 3000 points

Weapons: Hellstorm Cannon, Plasma Annihilator, 8 Secondary weapons,Volcano cannon,Main Battery, 4 Gun Towers, 2 Lascannons and 8 x Antipersonnel

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Deployment

 

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Turn 1

Initiative Phase: Titan Legions

Pre-turn Notes: Greg finally wins the int roll.

Movement Phase

[TL] [Scout Titan 1] - [ADVANCE MOVE]

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [MARCH MOVE] Notes: "spending surplus power 1 into movement to gain +5"

[TL] [Scout Titan 2] - [ADVANCE MOVE]

[TL] [Scout Titan 3] - [MARCH MOVE]

[TL] [Scout Titan 4] - [MARCH MOVE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [ADVANCE MOVE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [FIRST FIRE]

Combat Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [FIRSTFIRE OVERWATCH] [target: Imperator Class Titan] Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "warlord titan 1, fires both quack cannon and misses the emperor, has bless the emperor titan."

[TL] [Scout Titan 1] - [ADVANCEFIRE] [target: Imperator Class Titan]Combat Results: hits(3) saves(1) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan loses two shields."

[TL] [Scout Titan 2] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "scout titan can't see target due to LOS"

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "warlord titan 2 can't shoot due to LOS"

[TL] [Scout Titan 3] - [MARCH SHOOT(AIR)] [target: Imperator Class Titan] Results: hits(1) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan loses another shield."

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [MARCH SHOOT] [target: Scout Titan 3] Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "hell storm cannon adding two power point total 24 shots at Warhound 3. Killed Warhound 3, now targeting Warhound 1 with everything else and misses."

[TL] [Scout Titan 4] - [MARCH SHOOT] Notes: "Warhound was out of range for both guns."

End phase

Post-Turn Notes: emperor titan attempts to raise shields, failed to regain shields.

END OF TURN SHOT

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Turn 2

Initiative Phase: Titan Legions

Pre-turn Notes: Greg wins twice in a roll something fishing going on.

Movement Phase

[TL] [Scout Titan 4] - [MARCH MOVE]

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRST FIRE]

[TL] [Scout Titan 1] - [MARCH MOVE]

[TL] [Scout Titan 2] - [MARCH MOVE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [MARCH MOVE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [FIRST FIRE]

Combat Phase

TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRSTFIRE(CAP)] [target: Imperator Class Titan]Combat Results: hits(1) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor loses another shield."

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRSTFIRE(CAP)] [target: Scout Titan 1]Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan targets Warhound 1 with AP and Lascannons, taking shields but not killing, Warhound 2 target with gun towers, volcano cannon towers and secondary weapons killing Warhound 2, remaining guns at Warhound 4, spending two power point into the hell storm cannons to fire 24 shots, killing Warhound 4. "

[TL] [Scout Titan 1] - [MARCH SHOOT] [target: Imperator Class Titan]Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "Warhound 1 misses with everything."

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [MARCH SHOOT] [target: Imperator Class Titan] Combat Results: hits(21) saves(16) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan loses 5 shields."

End phase

Post-Turn Notes: Titan’s legion Warhound 1 raises a shields, emperor titan raises 3 shields.

END OF TURN SHOT

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Turn 3

Initiative Phase: Titan Legions

Pre-turn Notes: Greg wins again WTF is going?

Movement Phase

[TL] [Scout Titan 1] - [FIRST FIRE]

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRST FIRE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRST FIRE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [MARCH MOVE]

Combat Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Imperator Class Titan] Combat Results: hits(22) saves(16) killed(6) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan loses remaining shields."

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Lucius Warlord Titan 1] Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan shoots at Warhound 1 with 2 LC, 4GT, 8AP, VCT and SW 5, killing Warhound 1 with reactor doing a point of 1DR to EMP, warlord titan 2 targeting with spending a power point to fire PA and MB warlord titan 2 loses 2 shields, warlord titan 1 targeting with hell storm cannons spending 2 power to shot 24 shots, taking out all shields, doing 2 DR."

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [MARCH SHOOT] [target: Imperator Class Titan] Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan automatically makes saves because emperor titans save is 0+."

End phase

Post-Turn Notes: titan legion, warlord titan 1 raises 3 shields, doesn't repair right arm weapon Quack cannon, warlord titan 2 doesn't rises shields, emperor titan rises 4 shields.

END OF TURN SHOT

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Turn 4

Initiative Phase: Titan Legions

Pre-turn Notes: Greg has gotten four in a row for int roll WTF GOING ON!!!???

Movement Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRST FIRE]

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRST FIRE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [FIRST FIRE]

Combat Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Imperator Class Titan] Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "warlord titan 2 shooting everything at emperor titan, it's mega bolters tears shields off Imperator Class Titan, Mori Quake Cannon misses it, Belicosa Volcano Cannon hits but emperor titan saves, "

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Lucius Warlord Titan 1] Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "emperor titan targets warlord titan with everything that is in range. Spending 2 powers to fire hell storm to make it do 24 shots, spending a power point to shoot Plasma Annihilator hits, but warlord titan 2 saves."

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Imperator Class Titan] Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false) Notes: "warlord titan 1 can only fire mega bolter, which with the emperor titan save makes it automatically."

End phase

Post-Turn Notes: titan legion, warlord titan 1 rises 2 shield’s failed to fix weapon, warlord titan 2 rises no shield’s repair roll on legs fails, repair on shield’s makes it. Emperor titan spends power point to add +1 to shield’s rolls, raises 6 shields.

 END OF TURN SHOT

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Turn 5

Initiative Phase: Titan Legions

Pre-turn Notes: Greg has gotten four in a row for int roll WTF going here?

Movement Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [ADVANCE]

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRST FIRE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRSTFIRE]

Combat Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Imperator Class Titan]..shredding shield’s off Imperator Class Titan, has none left, Mori Quake Cannon hits, but Imperator Class Titan saves it, Belicosa Volcano Cannon hits dealing 2DR and three critical rolls: one on legs, bridge and reactor hit…

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD].…targeting both warlord titan, warlord titan 1 with Plasma Annihilator spending 2 power to do 2 overcharge shots since Imperator Class Titan hasn't moved, Main Battery, 4 Gun Towers and dealing another 2DR and two critical rolls both shield’s generators. Warlord titan 2 and the rest of the weapons at it..hitting it with :: 2 power to have hailstorm cannon fire 24 shots, dealing 5DR 4 critical rolls: one leg, right weapon destroy, left arm damage.

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [ADVANCEFIRE] [target: Imperator Class Titan]..Only the twin mega bolter can shoots, and gets 27 hits all saved due to emperor titan save of 0+.

End phase

Titan legion warlord titan 2 rises 1 shield’s, legs fails, shield’s generator.. Warlord titan 1 rises 3 shield’s, leg repair make it, weapon fails, emperor titan rises 6 shield’s and doesn't repair any damage.

 END OF TURN SHOT

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Turn 6

Initiative Phase: Imperator Class Titan

Movement Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [FIRSTFIRE]

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRSTFIRE]

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan]-[ No orders]

Combat Phase

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 1] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Imperator Class Titan].. 23 hits shreds the shield’s, emperor back to no shield’s…

[TL] [Lucius Warlord Titan 2] - [FIRSTFIRE HOLD] [target: Imperator Class Titan]….24 hits, emperors makes save due to 0+ amour. Mori Quake Cannon misses it… Belicosa Volcano Cannon hits and dealing a DR rolling two critical rolls, one shield’s generator and left arm hit (Plasma Annihilator)..

[ICT] [Imperator Class Titan] - [ADVANCE FIRE]..Target’s both warlord titans, warlord titan 2 targeted with 4 Gun Towers and Volcano cannon taking last shield’s off again, Warlord titan 1, Secondary weapons, Main Battery, spending 2 power to have hell storm cannon doing 12 shots on each killing warlord titan 2, killing warlord titan 1…..end of game about time.

End phase

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 END OF TURN SHOT

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Summary

Wow..talk about a beast.. I manage to do 4DR all up it..and got luck with Critical roll..Now it may be different, with more close combat Titans..since you are getting the D10 roll for extra damage, if you have two CC weapons.

1) Mori Quake Cannon: Yeah.. didn’t do much, but I can see two of them been a limit on a warlord, since they can fire indirect, if there is rec on board, which a scout titan in this case… If facing large formations, it could very deadly..

 

2) Imperator Class Titan: Ok.. I think it should be set at 4000 points, Trent things 3750 points… I think both of us thought the +0 armors save was bit OP… it should be +1….

QA and of things…

1) I guess the Titan weapons table needs to indicate want BP weapons can fire indirect..? We Know about the Mori Quake Cannon, since it came up in a discussion..but it leave questions about the others…

2) Warhound scout titan needs to have recon add to it some where.. We gather some of this will appear on the army cards when done..but would suggested that its indicated on the Titan Special Cards table some where.

3) On the Imperator System Power Usage table, how many power points can you spend on repairs and shields? We kept it to 1 power for this game, on either one..

4) Typo on Imperator System Power Usage table..the “Movement: increases Imperators base move by +5cms. ! power point max can be assigned to this system”… We only used 1 power point, since the ! left wondering weather it was more…

5) Gun towers, so can you fire all forward?..We thought it could looking at the model..but in the Titans weapon table, it could be indicated by saying (4 forward,only 2 can target rear)..

6) On the critical system table for titans..on the weapon hit one, there is no Imperator Class Titan mention, just warlord: We used that one, but feel it could do with its own critical table in the long run…

7) Back critical system table for titans and this time about the “-1 on shield regeneration rolls until repaired” and Bridge rolls were its said ”-1 to all repair rolls until repaired”, so do both of these negative stack when rolled multiple times. So for example if I roll and get three shield generators hits, does that make the regeneration rolls so the 8 becomes 11? We played that it did.. made life fun..

8) although it didn’t come in this game,question was raised about having two Close combat weapons that add to the damage table for example having 2 x Power Ram, since the weapons is +4 does that give a +8 to the roll?

Thanks for reading…

Regards

Greg

21/6/2018: Ok, well a stuff up the Hellstorm cannon shots and there a couple of things, that were brought up in the discussion on messager that were not, shown in the rule book etc..but that’s want testing is for…..It also proves we are Human after all and not !@#$%^& Robots…So another report with a tweak version of the Imperator Class Titan. That should happen Friday the 22nd of June..