I Played the Saim-Hann and Dan played the Legio Gryphonicus..
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Armies used
Saim-Hann Craftworld (4.2)
WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST (LARGE) [425]
Wild Rider, 8 Jetbike, 4 Vyper, Farseer
WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST (LARGE) [475]
Wild Rider, 8 Jetbike, 4 Vyper, Wild Rider Chieftain
WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST (MEDIUM) [350]
Wild Rider, 9 Jetbike,, Farseer
SHINING SPEARS ASPECT WARRIOR WARHOST [350]
8 Shining Spears, 2 Exarch
AVATAR [0]
SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [250]
3 Falcon, 2 Fire Storm
SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [250]
3 Falcon, 2 Fire Storm
HORNET TROUPE [200]
4 Hornets
HORNET TROUPE [200]
4 Hornets
Scout rider troupe[175]
4 Jetbike, 2 Vyper
Scout rider troupe[175]
4 Jetbike, 2 Vyper
WRAITHSHIP [150]
Legio Gryphonicus (NetEA v3.24 *APPROVED*)
REAVER TITAN [625]
2 Gatling Blaster, Laser Burner
REAVER TITAN [625]
2 Gatling Blaster, Laser Burner
REAVER TITAN [700]
Apocalypse Missile Launcher, Plasma Cannon, Gatling Blaster, Legate
WARHOUND TITAN [300]
Vulcan Megabolter, Turbo-laser Destructor
WARHOUND TITAN [300]
Vulcan Megabolter, Turbo-laser Destructor
CRUSADER SCOUT MANIPLE [150]
4 Crusader Robots
THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolts
THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolts
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Deployment
- Deployment of Legio Gryphonicus,Saim-Hann and objective makers…
- Off board forces
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Turn 1
- Legio Gryphonicus won the SR and elected to let the Saim-Hann (4.2.2) go first….
- Saim-Hann do WRAITHSHIP(Photo1) and Barrage was used and it manage to land on the CRUSADER SCOUT MANIPLE, killing 1 and giving it a BM(Photo2)…well that went well
- Saim-Hann march move Hornets up left flank(Photo1)..getting ready next turn
- Legio Gryphonicus bring THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON and shoot Scout rider troupe,killing 2 and giving it 3 BM’s(Photo1)..was done to try, cut down on activates
- Saim-Hann double move Hornets up left flank(Photo1)..getting ready next turn
- Legio Gryphonicus double move WARHOUND up(Photo1) and shoots HORNETS, Killing 2 and breaking them due to BM’s, so they flee behind the hill in there deployment zone(Photo2)..was done to try, cut down on activates
- Saim-Hann double move WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST up(Photo1) and shoot warhound, taking down 1 shield and giving it a BM(Photo2)..hoping to place a few BM’s
- Legio Gryphonicus double move WARHOUND up(Photo1) and shoots Scout rider troupe,breaking them due to BM’s, so they flee to the hill in there deployment zone(Photo2)..was done to try and get rid of scouts
- Legio Gryphonicus bring THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON and shoot broken HORNETS killing it out right(Photo1)..was after kill points
- Saim-Hann double move SoV up(Photo1) and shoot warhound, taking down 2 shields and giving it a BM(Photo2)..hoping to place a few BM’s
- Legio Gryphonicus double move REAVER up(Photo1) and shoot Scout rider troupe,giving them a BM(Photo2)..was done to try and get rid of scouts
- Saim-Hann fail to activate SoV(SC rerolled used), so regroup (Photo1)….dam
- Legio Gryphonicus double move REAVER up(Photo1) and shoot Scout rider troupe, killing 2 and breaking it and so it flees forward(Photo2)..was done to try and get rid of scouts
- Legio Gryphonicus do marshalling action on CRUSADER SCOUT MANIPLE, so move and then remove all BM’s(Photo1)..Guard duty.
- Saim Hann double move SHINNING SPEARS beside the ruins(Photo1)…getting ready for next turn
- Legio Gryphonicus march move REAVER up(Photo1)..getting ready for next turn
- Saim Hann double move WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(M), beside the ruins(Photo1)…getting ready for next turn
- Saim Hann double move WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(LR), beside the ruins and shoots REAVER, giving it a BM(Photo1)…getting ready for next turn
- Saim-Hann don’t rally Scout rider troupe.Both sides remove Blast Markers.
- NO aircraft were lost in the disengage section…
END OF TURN SHOT
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Turn 2
- Saim-Hann win SR and go first..
- Saim Hann do a engage action with the Avatar and use his commander ability and bring in WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(M) and WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(LR) and targets the REAVER(Support from REAVER)(Photo1).The first round of combat was draw(Photo2).The second round of combat the Avatar(2DC)&WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(M) and WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(Broken), the Reaver is Broken and the supporting Reaver gets BM for failed assault(Photo3).The Reaver flees to the top of the hill and the Avatar(2DC)&WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(M), consolidate move forward and the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(Broken) flees behind ruins(Photo4)..was done to clear area of ATML forces
- Saim Hann do a engage action with the SHINING SPEARS(support from avatar and WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST)and target the REAVER(Photo1).The dice are rolled and the REAVER is the winner and the SHINING SPEARS is wiped from the board(Photo2) and the avatar breaks due to BM’s and fall back to the objective maker and the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST, gets a BM and target the REAVER(no shields, 2DC and 3BM’s) stays put(Photo3)….was done to clear area of ATML forces
- Saim-Hann move SoV up(Photo1) and shoot REAVER,doing 3 DC and breaking it due to BM’s, so it flees into the ruins(Photo2) and then move back, from where it started(Photo3)..was hoping to kill it
- Legio Gryphonicus does sustain fire action on REAVER(BTS)(Photo1) and shoots the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST (MEDIUM), giving them 7 BM’s(Photo2),..wanted to add BM’s to make it harder to activate..
- Legio Gryphonicus does sustain fire action on Warhound(Photo1) and shoots the SoV, giving them a BM(Photo2)…was hoping to break it..
- Saim-Hann do marshalling action with Scout rider troupe and so move and remove all BM’s(Photo1)..getting ready for next turn
- Saim-Hann move HORNETS do pop-up(Photo1) and shoot WAHOUND, taking 2 shields down and giving them a BM(Photo2)..placing BM’s..
- Saim-Hann fail to activate SoV(SC rerolled used), so take the BM and shoot the WARHOUND, giving it a BM(Photo1)..was hoping to make it harder to activate(great, so I can make armour saves, but not active this bloody formation.)
- Legio Gryphonicus does sustain fire action on Warhound(Photo1) and shoots the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST, killing 2 and giving them 3 BM’s(Photo2)…getting ready for next turn
- Saim-Hann do marshalling action with WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(LARGE) and so move and remove all BM’s(Photo1)..getting ready for next turn
- Legio Gryphonicus place CRUSADER SCOUT MANIPLE on overwatch(Photo1)..Guard duty
- Legio Gryphonicus bring THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON and shoot broken Scout rider troupe,killing 2 all up(Photo1)..was after kill points
- Legio Gryphonicus bring THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON and shoot broken Scout rider troupe,killing 1 all up(Photo1)..was after kill points
- Saim-Hann don’t rally Scout rider troupe and Legio Gryphonicus don’t rally REAVER TITAN.Both sides remove Blast Markers.
- NO aircraft were lost in the disengage section…
- REAVER takes another DC from critical
END OF TURN SHOT
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Turn 3
- Tied dice roll and so Legio Gryphonicus win SR and go first..
- Legio Gryphonicus does Marshalling action on REAVER(Photo1) and shoots the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST (MEDIUM), killing 2 and giving it 3 BM’s(Photo2) and removes all BM’s and raises shields(Photo1)..wanted shields up and no BM’s on him..
- Legio Gryphonicus does sustain fire action on REAVER(BTS)(Photo1) and shoots the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST (MEDIUM), killing 5 and breaking it, so it flees behind hill(Photo2)
- Saim Hann do a engage action with the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST and target the Warhound(Photo1).The dice are rolled and the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST are the winners and the warhound is wiped from the board(failed armour saves)(Photo2) and the WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST consolidate a full move towards the other warhound(Photo3)…was done to clear area of ATML forces
- Saim-Hann fail to activate SoV(SC rerolled used)(Photo1), so take the BM and shoot the WARHOUND, doing a shield and giving it a BM(Photo2)..was hoping to make it harder to activate
- Legio Gryphonicus bring THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON and shoot broken WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST (MEDIUM), killing it out right(Photo1)..was after kill points
- Legio Gryphonicus does Marshalling action on WARHOUND and moves and removes all BM’s(Photo1)..wanted shields up and no BM’s on him..
- Saim-Hann move HORNETS up(Photo1) and shoot WAHOUND, taking 2 shields down and doing 2DC, so it breaks and stays put(Photo2)..was hoping to break it, so I could claim TSNP goal..
- Legio Gryphonicus bring THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON and shoot broken Scout rider troupe, killing the last one(Photo1)..was after kill points
- Saim-Hann place Scout rider troupe on overwatch(Photo1)..Guard Duty
- Saim-Hann do marshalling action with WILD RIDER CLAN WARHOST(LARGE) and so move it closer to the Objective marker and remove all BM’s(Photo1)..getting ready for next turn
- Legio Gryphonicus keep CRUSADER SCOUT MANIPLE on overwatch(Photo1)..Guard duty
- Saim-Hann double move SoV up(Photo1) and shoot the REAVER, killing it out right, it only needed to do one DC(Photo2)…kill points
- Both sides remove Blast Markers.
- NO aircraft were lost in the disengage section…
- REAVER repairs critical
- Saim-Hann win 3-0
| Victory Condition | Saim-Hann | Legio Gryphonicus |
| 1. Blitz | NO | no |
| 2. Break their sprit | no | NO |
| 3. Defend the Flag | Yes | no |
| 4. Take and Hold | No | no |
| 5. They Shall not Pass | Yes | no |
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Expert rider rule:..It feels fine to use and there were times when I wish it would work more, but feels about right.Dan didn’t have problem with it and thought it worked, since in the end the dice average out..
Scout Rider Troupe: They end up basically broken.. and then spent the hold Blitz or dying from strafing runs…
HORNETS: Again I think the 30 cm range on the hornets, feels about right. It does force you move the formation more.So where's before you may have done a single move, you are now doing a double move..So a bit more though into its deployment etc.
The reason this game was done was about concern brought up about the 10 cm counter charge rule..so some thought, questions…
Ok the first question is, if it’s issue why hasn’t come up in the UK SH. I image there would have been fair amount of feedback as it was going through the tournament scène and would have image if it was issue it would have been pick up in the play testing too. I see it’s has a win 11 - 34% lose 11 - 34% Draw 10 - 31% , but I notice it hasn’t been taken much..If it was advantage then it should have been used more by now, 31 games by the looks in 5 years…
I thought the formation of large wild riders between both list, would have big points difference and size, but they are the same in size and points roughly….Yes there are some differences in that UK doesn’t have wild riders and we do and the Farseer is CH in SH4.2 and it’s a infantry unit in UK list....The standard size is nine for the UK list and then you add the Farseer and three jetbike so you are 14 stands and cost about 425. Ok if we look at SH4.2, the same thing is 13 stands and is 425 points(but the Farseer is CH and we have add two upgrades of jetbikes), so could be 25points cheaper and you lose the Farsight ability..UK will be 375 points and lose the Farsight and 1 stand..
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