Trent played Titan Legions and I played the Questoris Knight Households..
Testing was done on the following:
1) Points increase on titans
2) Plasma weapons again..
3) Trail run of the new CC rules…in version 0.6 rule book…
4) shields at 4+
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Armies used
Titan Legions
Warhound Pack: 2 Warhound Titan Engines (600 points)
Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points
Weapons:Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Dual turbo-laser destructor
Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points
Weapons: Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Titan Vulcan Mega bolter
Warhound Pack: 2 Warhound Titan Engines(600 points)
Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points
Weapons:Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Dual turbo-laser destructor
Warhound Scout Titan (original metal version) 300 points
Weapons: Titan Plasma Blast Gun, Titan Vulcan Mega bolter
Battle Maniple:Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)
Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)
Weapons: 2 x Sunfury Plasma Annihilator
Upgrades: 1 power : Add 20cm range to 1 weapon, 2 max upgrades (Sunfury Plasma Annihilator both of them)x 2..2 power: Add 1 shield
Battle Maniple:Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)
Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan(900 points)
Weapons: Mori Quake Cannon,Saturnyne lascutter and Two Twin linked Vulcan Megabolters
Questoris Knight Households
Questoris Knight Paladin(type 1) Company card 1050 points
1 Questoris Knight Paladin Lord Scion Command/HQ (Upgrade: Senechal)
Maniple: 3 Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1)
Maniple: 3 Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1)
Questoris Knight Errant(type 1) Company card 850 points
1 Questoris Knight Errant Lord Scion Command/HQ
Maniple: 3 Questoris Knight Errants (type 1)
Maniple: 3 Questoris Knight Errants (type 1)
Questoris Knight Paladin (type 1) support card 400 points
Maniple: 3 Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1)
Questoris Knight Crusader (type 1) support card 350 points
Maniple: 3 Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1)
Questoris Knight Crusader (type 1) support card 350 points
Maniple: 3 Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1)
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Deployment
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Turn 1
Initiative Phase: Questoris Knight Households. Knight goes first.
Movement Phase
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 2] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 1] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 3S] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 2] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 1] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 3] - [MARCH MOVE] Pass Terrain test..
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladin Lord Scion Command/HQ] - [MARCH MOVE]
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 4] - [MARCH MOVE] Pass Terrain test..
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Errant Lord Scion Command/HQ ] - [MARCH MOVE]
[TL] [Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan 1] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 1] - [MARCH MOVE] Notes: "into Warhound 4"
[TL] [Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan 2] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 2] - [MARCH MOVE] Notes: "into Warhound 3"
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Errants (type 1) 1] - [MARCH MOVE] Notes: "into Warhound 2"
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Errants (type 1) 2] - [MARCH MOVE] Notes: "into Warhound 1 "
Combat Phase
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 1] - [CLOSE COMBAT] Notes: "paladins 1, do close combat against Warhound 4…. Paladins, destroy Warhound out right…"
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 3] - [CLOSE COMBAT] Notes: "Warhound 3 target paladins 2, does nothing and tie, and morale is passed....Now onto round 2. And after doing another round paladins win, Warhound is wounded, roll so n table and falls back 10cms and is suppress."
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Errants (type 1) 2] - [CLOSE COMBAT] Notes: "Errants engage in close combat with Warhound 2, destroy Warhound out right..."
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 1] - [CLOSE COMBAT] Notes: "Warhound 1 does close combat with errants 1, both side do nothing and morale is passed. So onto round two and the Errants suffer 2 DR and the Warhound suffers 2 DR, and they pass morale and so onto round three… Warhound manages to kill one Knight and win the combat, so Knights fail morale and fail back..
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 2] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "Target Warhound 3, and kill it."
[TL] [Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan 1] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "Warlord titan, the Twin linked Vulcan Megabolters : one fires at the Errant detachment , dealing 3 DR’s all up(one on each Knight). The Twin linked Vulcan Megabolters : shoots at lord Errant killing him out right.., Saturnyne lascutter targets the Errants, killing one and the Mori Quake Cannon targets the Paladins, killing one..suppress due to chart roll..
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 3S] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "can't shoot no line of sight to target."
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 1] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "targets Errant 2, kills one knight with combine fire of its weapons. "
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 2] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "no targets and no line of sight."
[TL] [Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan 2] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "doesn't shoot to far in terrain."
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladin Lord Scion Command/HQ] - [MARCH SHOOT]Notes: "no target."
End phase
Post-Turn Notes: Warhound 1 doesn't repair nor regain shields. Errant 1 doesn’t make morale check for fallback and so falls back..,
Score: Titan sitting 3Vp, while knights sitting on 12VP.
END OF TURN SHOT
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Turn 2
Initiative Phase: Questoris Knight Households, knight wins strategy roll and go first.. knights errata 2 removes suppression..
Movement Phase
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 2] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[TL] [Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan 1] - [MARCH MOVE]
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 3S] - [FIRST FIRE]
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 1] - [ADVANCE MOVE]
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 1] - [FIRST FIRE]
[TL] [Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan 2] - [MARCH MOVE] Notes: "into paladin 1"
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 1] [MARCH MOVE] Notes:"being in engaged by warlord 2
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 2] - [MARCH MOVE] Notes: "into warlord 2"
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladin Lord Scion Command/HQ] - [MARCH MOVE]Notes:"into warlord 2"
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Errants (type 1) 2] - [MARCH MOVE]
Combat Phase
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 2] - [FIRSTFIRE OVERWATCH] Notes: "did nothing to warlord bless by machines spirted."
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 3S] - [FIRSTFIRE OVERWATCH] Notes: "failed to shoot no line of sight."
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Paladins (type 1) 1] - [CLOSE COMBAT] Notes: "paladin being engage Warlord 2, killing a knight and knights make morale check…., Round 2 Warlord kills another knight and wounding another, and knights make morale check …Round 3 Warlord this times wounding two knights and knights make morale check …Round 4 Warlord kills two knight (only had one wound each) and of course Knight passed Morale…, Round 5, Warlord doing another wound,and of course Knight passed Morale… Round 6: nothing happens, tie and morale is passed.., Round 7 warlord kills another knight, and of course Knight passed Morale …Round 8 nothing happens.., tie and morale is passed….Round 9 warlord kills both Knight(which includes commander) and wipes out the paladins company."(In my defense, I never see me roll so many amour saves or roll high for morale…)
[TL] [Warhound Scout Titan 1] - [CLOSE COMBAT]Notes: "Warhound 1 engagement Errant, Warhound kill errant in its fury."
[QKH] [Questoris Knight Crusaders (type 1) 2] - [ADVANCEFIRE] Notes: "targets warlord 1, taking down 5 shields leaving it one."
[TL] [Lucius Pattern Warlord Titan 1] - [MARCH SHOOT] Notes: "warlord weapons 2x Twin linked Vulcan Megabolters shoot crusader 1, killing one knight, and the Saturnyne lascutter targets the crusader 2 killing a knight."
End phase
Score: Titan sitting 22VP,while knights sitting on 12VP.
END OF TURN SHOT
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Summary
Ok another interesting game..it started well for me since I target the Warhounds to cut down on his speed and then it went pear shaped..since I was very keen to test the new CC changes..So yeah, I could have fled away from him, and hide in cover and made him come after me..But that's not going to test stuff…
1) Points increase on titans: This seam about right now for titans points cost, and the lower unit count will mean the player will need to make tactical decisions about holding objectives or wiping stuff off the board..also means the big boys will need to get into the action and not still on the back line..
2) Plasma weapons again: Well this didn't get much of a test run, since will it was very CC game..But when they did get to shoot, it was mainly non over charge…. There two train thoughts in the group, 1) is that increase the shoots for short range, so that they get used more, since well, the belief is that, you just move up, sit on the objective and from turn 2, just don't move and over charged.(That train of thought may change due to points increase).. 2) Up the shots for both types of shots and drop the templates..This more of time thing and should stop the arguments about placement and wants under the template(yep these rule are clearer on that then EA), but it’s going to happen….My gut feeling is that plasma weapons are good, but as always, there still needs to be more testing done…I’m in favor of dropping templates and upping the shoots for both types…
3) Trail run of the new CC rules…in version 0.6 of rule book: These changes and the write, have help this section greatly and they are a step in the right direction..I know there was a CC that went for 8/9 rounds, but that was due to both sides making higher then average armor and Morale saves, with modifiers, but it was nice to have resolution for the CC and not do one round and just have it sit there till next turn..and compared to other 5 games we have played, it went quick, as far a we were concern… I know that this just our point of view and other may not agree..which is fine…We have another game played for Saturday night were it Space Marines Vs Solar Auxilia and I think it will flow even quicker, since there wont be some many high DR units on the table…
4) shields at 4+: OK, the last couple of games we have been using the armor save and this change was bought in, in version 0.4. We had concerns getting shield back up, was a little tuff and thought shields could be repaired on a 7+…Now with this save to shields and not using armor save, as the shield rating, there may be a case, but we will tested and see..
Thanks for reading
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